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		<title>By: all about high heel</title>
		<link>http://kwani.org/main/translated-from-kibakizungu/comment-page-1/#comment-2305</link>
		<dc:creator>all about high heel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 02:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High heels make women feel taller, skinnier and 

sexier.That is why high heels are always loved by 

women. 

If you would like to have a look at the high heel 

styles of the brand Christian Louboutin, Jimmy Choo, 

etc, you could link to:
http://www.allabouthighheel.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High heels make women feel taller, skinnier and </p>
<p>sexier.That is why high heels are always loved by </p>
<p>women. </p>
<p>If you would like to have a look at the high heel </p>
<p>styles of the brand Christian Louboutin, Jimmy Choo, </p>
<p>etc, you could link to:<br />
<a href="http://www.allabouthighheel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.allabouthighheel.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Margaret S. Maringa</title>
		<link>http://kwani.org/main/translated-from-kibakizungu/comment-page-1/#comment-2218</link>
		<dc:creator>Margaret S. Maringa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First -- an appeal for common civility and kind words among Kenyans. There is no need to become so emotionally and politically heated as to be reduced to vituperative words that are banned from civlised speech. 

Secondly -- to remind everybody that we are all passing guests on this planet (kenay included). The stuff that we are now busy grabbing, hating and killing one another -- will not matter to the majority players -- a hundred years from today. 

Therefore -- let us walk and talk walk circumspectly around Kenyan politics.  community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First &#8212; an appeal for common civility and kind words among Kenyans. There is no need to become so emotionally and politically heated as to be reduced to vituperative words that are banned from civlised speech. </p>
<p>Secondly &#8212; to remind everybody that we are all passing guests on this planet (kenay included). The stuff that we are now busy grabbing, hating and killing one another &#8212; will not matter to the majority players &#8212; a hundred years from today. </p>
<p>Therefore &#8212; let us walk and talk walk circumspectly around Kenyan politics.  community.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana Kimball</title>
		<link>http://kwani.org/main/translated-from-kibakizungu/comment-page-1/#comment-1787</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana Kimball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I arrived in Kenya from 
USA on December 26th 2007. I spent one year on the shores of Lake Victoria. I took the bus from Nairobi to Kisumu. Anyone making that trip has great feeling of the phrase road to hell. Never sit in the back of a bus unless you wear a steel helmet.
Anyway Nairobi was beautiful and Kisumu also. And after many months I realized I was in Paradise. After one year I can&#039;t tell the difference between a Kikuyu and a Luo or any other tribe. The people I met and lived with were all nice people I miss them loved them. And I will never again ask for a fork to eat my tilapia. I am a muzungo and I was treated like a King. Children would come with their parents to shake my hand and ask for a coin or two. I would love to open a conversation and stun my fellows with the statement  &quot;you live in the greatest place on Earth&quot; In my first abode there were mangoes, papaya and avocados falling to the ground. In 5 minutes i could gather hundreds of dollars of fruit.  I come from New York State where the growing season is from April to September. Anyway Paradise in my eyes is where I was. My new family enfolded me and smothered me with love. It took time of course for them to know me but eventually we formed a bond so strong that my heart is still in Kenya. Now I can understand the problem Kenyans have. How can you have thieves teaching your children and expect great things from them. I can&#039;t tell you how incredulous I was when I learned you had to bribe your teachers. So where is the model a child can look to. They whip your children if you the parent don&#039;t pay on time. I ask everyone who reads this to tell me how your children can be different than those who teach us. And the other thing that shocked me is visiting a hospital and seeing two patients per bed. And they laughed at me and said sometimes three. How you suffer is beyond words. And how women are treated corrupts the mind. I was told by my brother in law your wife is your property. I was never so afraid in Kenya as when I was in a police station face to face with evil. Knowing the man I was talking to could pull out a gun and shoot me dead and nothing would be done about it. Meanwhile the police are hitting on my wife in front of me. Of course I had to bribe the police or as they refer to as giving the policeman his tea. Anyway I hope I have not offended anyone this is Kenyan through my eyes. I love Kenyans. They are obsessed with education. 
But until the rights of all humans are guaranteed men, women and children your talk of political this or that is meaningless. It is a room full of school children when the teacher is not there. Anyway I love you all. Jambo Sana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I arrived in Kenya from<br />
USA on December 26th 2007. I spent one year on the shores of Lake Victoria. I took the bus from Nairobi to Kisumu. Anyone making that trip has great feeling of the phrase road to hell. Never sit in the back of a bus unless you wear a steel helmet.<br />
Anyway Nairobi was beautiful and Kisumu also. And after many months I realized I was in Paradise. After one year I can&#8217;t tell the difference between a Kikuyu and a Luo or any other tribe. The people I met and lived with were all nice people I miss them loved them. And I will never again ask for a fork to eat my tilapia. I am a muzungo and I was treated like a King. Children would come with their parents to shake my hand and ask for a coin or two. I would love to open a conversation and stun my fellows with the statement  &#8220;you live in the greatest place on Earth&#8221; In my first abode there were mangoes, papaya and avocados falling to the ground. In 5 minutes i could gather hundreds of dollars of fruit.  I come from New York State where the growing season is from April to September. Anyway Paradise in my eyes is where I was. My new family enfolded me and smothered me with love. It took time of course for them to know me but eventually we formed a bond so strong that my heart is still in Kenya. Now I can understand the problem Kenyans have. How can you have thieves teaching your children and expect great things from them. I can&#8217;t tell you how incredulous I was when I learned you had to bribe your teachers. So where is the model a child can look to. They whip your children if you the parent don&#8217;t pay on time. I ask everyone who reads this to tell me how your children can be different than those who teach us. And the other thing that shocked me is visiting a hospital and seeing two patients per bed. And they laughed at me and said sometimes three. How you suffer is beyond words. And how women are treated corrupts the mind. I was told by my brother in law your wife is your property. I was never so afraid in Kenya as when I was in a police station face to face with evil. Knowing the man I was talking to could pull out a gun and shoot me dead and nothing would be done about it. Meanwhile the police are hitting on my wife in front of me. Of course I had to bribe the police or as they refer to as giving the policeman his tea. Anyway I hope I have not offended anyone this is Kenyan through my eyes. I love Kenyans. They are obsessed with education.<br />
But until the rights of all humans are guaranteed men, women and children your talk of political this or that is meaningless. It is a room full of school children when the teacher is not there. Anyway I love you all. Jambo Sana</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy Ogonga</title>
		<link>http://kwani.org/main/translated-from-kibakizungu/comment-page-1/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy Ogonga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 07:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to write something on this page a year ago, but it was too putrid for me. I dont know if i have gotten used, or the stink has dissapeared, but if just to share something totally outlandish... the following is from The history of the Gestapo by Jacques Delarue:

&quot;The crimes of Nazism are not the crimes of one nation. Cruelty, a taste for violence, the religion of force, ferocious racialism (...read &quot;tribalism&quot;), are not the prerogative of a period or of a people. They are of all ages and of all countries.
They have biological and psychological bases which it is by no means certain that we shall escape again.
The human being is a dangerous wild animal. In normal periods his evil instincts remain in the background, held in check by the conventions, habits, laws and criteria of civilization, but let a regime come which not only liberates these terrible impulses but makes a virtue out of them, then from the depths of time the snout of the beast reappears, tears aside the slender disguise imposed by civilization and howls the death-cries of forgotten ages...&quot;

We all know deep in our hearts what is happening (...i presume...). For me, the saddest thing is the poison, the arrogance, the carelessness with which we are still handling each other with, the ignorance still, that is the aftermath of this whole episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to write something on this page a year ago, but it was too putrid for me. I dont know if i have gotten used, or the stink has dissapeared, but if just to share something totally outlandish&#8230; the following is from The history of the Gestapo by Jacques Delarue:</p>
<p>&#8220;The crimes of Nazism are not the crimes of one nation. Cruelty, a taste for violence, the religion of force, ferocious racialism (&#8230;read &#8220;tribalism&#8221;), are not the prerogative of a period or of a people. They are of all ages and of all countries.<br />
They have biological and psychological bases which it is by no means certain that we shall escape again.<br />
The human being is a dangerous wild animal. In normal periods his evil instincts remain in the background, held in check by the conventions, habits, laws and criteria of civilization, but let a regime come which not only liberates these terrible impulses but makes a virtue out of them, then from the depths of time the snout of the beast reappears, tears aside the slender disguise imposed by civilization and howls the death-cries of forgotten ages&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>We all know deep in our hearts what is happening (&#8230;i presume&#8230;). For me, the saddest thing is the poison, the arrogance, the carelessness with which we are still handling each other with, the ignorance still, that is the aftermath of this whole episode.</p>
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		<title>By: thekenyannutcase</title>
		<link>http://kwani.org/main/translated-from-kibakizungu/comment-page-1/#comment-1300</link>
		<dc:creator>thekenyannutcase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i remember how i had resolved to finish campus and fly out of this country last year during the violence. decided otherwise and helped out with red cross as much as i could.it was very disturbing and i actually quit after a week of social work at the Moi Referral Hospital in Eldoret.

the problem with MANY Kenyans is that &quot;they&quot; are &quot;all&quot; politcians who don&#039;t run for political seats but run their mouths instead.

i read of a firm called inncor in Zimbabwe which was making profits even during their political crisis.their secret; mind your own business.

that&#039;s my resolve..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i remember how i had resolved to finish campus and fly out of this country last year during the violence. decided otherwise and helped out with red cross as much as i could.it was very disturbing and i actually quit after a week of social work at the Moi Referral Hospital in Eldoret.</p>
<p>the problem with MANY Kenyans is that &#8220;they&#8221; are &#8220;all&#8221; politcians who don&#8217;t run for political seats but run their mouths instead.</p>
<p>i read of a firm called inncor in Zimbabwe which was making profits even during their political crisis.their secret; mind your own business.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s my resolve..</p>
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		<title>By: rubina</title>
		<link>http://kwani.org/main/translated-from-kibakizungu/comment-page-1/#comment-1095</link>
		<dc:creator>rubina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is this person? well... we did have him. kind of. except he was born in hawaii and is currently too preoccupied ruling another country in crisis. 

we all know that our leaders suck!!!!! in more ways than one. but this is our generation, this is our time and we know better. so we ought to do better. yet we sit comfortably every friday night eagerly anticipating kukuru kakara and other political satires without realizing that like hyenas laughing excitedly amid the frenzy of a kill, we are slowly chewing our own feet. 

politics isn&#039;t just a laughing matter. this people are responsible for our futures and the generations to come. its time we stepped up. we can no longer afford to point fingers at others and wallow in tribalism. come one Kenyans, we can do better than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is this person? well&#8230; we did have him. kind of. except he was born in hawaii and is currently too preoccupied ruling another country in crisis. </p>
<p>we all know that our leaders suck!!!!! in more ways than one. but this is our generation, this is our time and we know better. so we ought to do better. yet we sit comfortably every friday night eagerly anticipating kukuru kakara and other political satires without realizing that like hyenas laughing excitedly amid the frenzy of a kill, we are slowly chewing our own feet. </p>
<p>politics isn&#8217;t just a laughing matter. this people are responsible for our futures and the generations to come. its time we stepped up. we can no longer afford to point fingers at others and wallow in tribalism. come one Kenyans, we can do better than this.</p>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
		<link>http://kwani.org/main/translated-from-kibakizungu/comment-page-1/#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone blames last year, and this year, in fact the last 45 years, on a crisis of leadership. Every article suggests that we, at heart, are good people, but that our leaders have failed us. 
But we get the leaders that we deserve. 

We chose the current leaders, and if they are cowardly, shortsighted, greedy, callous and small, it is says something about our current moral and social fabric.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone blames last year, and this year, in fact the last 45 years, on a crisis of leadership. Every article suggests that we, at heart, are good people, but that our leaders have failed us.<br />
But we get the leaders that we deserve. </p>
<p>We chose the current leaders, and if they are cowardly, shortsighted, greedy, callous and small, it is says something about our current moral and social fabric.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen Wandago</title>
		<link>http://kwani.org/main/translated-from-kibakizungu/comment-page-1/#comment-1016</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen Wandago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The writer must have had a lot of nerve to post this story, its hard to hear the points raised in this article (or read), but they are what is out there in the minds of ignorant Kenyans, unfortunately they make up the majority. You can get mad and whirl out, but its true! True in the sense that these venomous thoughts have found a place in our heads to rest and grow on to further generate hate amongst ourselves. The writer just said it, its not her fault that Kikuyus think those thoughts!

I am a Luo.

I don&#039;t think we need a redeemer, and even if he came I doubt if we would give him a chance or listen to him. The first thing we will ask is, what tribe is he? The redeemer is within ourselves. How can you convince a prejudice person to love his neighbor again by use words only, anyway? We have been looking for the redeemer in the wrong places.

I am really SAD, reading through this article filled me with a lot of grief. Because I see my people are stupid... and ignorant.. and we keep passing it over to the next generation, and that generation embraces it tightly. 

You never know how black you are until you find yourself in a room full of white people. I am &quot;black&quot; and I have once in a while found myself in a room full of &quot;white&quot; folks. Just because I am Luo, I have been discriminated against.

If you want to hate me because of my tribe, hate me! I have no apologies to make. But I will NOT allow myself to be like them! I will NOT be that much ignorant and stupid. I WILL always be Luo, I can&#039;t change that. But I am a Human being, a decent one.

God Bless Us All.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The writer must have had a lot of nerve to post this story, its hard to hear the points raised in this article (or read), but they are what is out there in the minds of ignorant Kenyans, unfortunately they make up the majority. You can get mad and whirl out, but its true! True in the sense that these venomous thoughts have found a place in our heads to rest and grow on to further generate hate amongst ourselves. The writer just said it, its not her fault that Kikuyus think those thoughts!</p>
<p>I am a Luo.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we need a redeemer, and even if he came I doubt if we would give him a chance or listen to him. The first thing we will ask is, what tribe is he? The redeemer is within ourselves. How can you convince a prejudice person to love his neighbor again by use words only, anyway? We have been looking for the redeemer in the wrong places.</p>
<p>I am really SAD, reading through this article filled me with a lot of grief. Because I see my people are stupid&#8230; and ignorant.. and we keep passing it over to the next generation, and that generation embraces it tightly. </p>
<p>You never know how black you are until you find yourself in a room full of white people. I am &#8220;black&#8221; and I have once in a while found myself in a room full of &#8220;white&#8221; folks. Just because I am Luo, I have been discriminated against.</p>
<p>If you want to hate me because of my tribe, hate me! I have no apologies to make. But I will NOT allow myself to be like them! I will NOT be that much ignorant and stupid. I WILL always be Luo, I can&#8217;t change that. But I am a Human being, a decent one.</p>
<p>God Bless Us All.</p>
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		<title>By: gitahi</title>
		<link>http://kwani.org/main/translated-from-kibakizungu/comment-page-1/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>gitahi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PARENTAL ADVISORY; Racial tolerance (or prejudice) necessary before you proceed.

For anyone who might not understand sheng;

Msapere:

 usually a short, often pot-bellied, spindly-legged, coarse-haired (if not slightly balding), big-headed (both literally and figuratively), foul-mouthed, sexually delusional, needlessly quarrelsome and opinionated species most probably raised on (un)healthy po(r)tions of boiled potatoes, boiled maize and occasionally beans, turungi (or strungi, obviously a corruption of ‘strong tea’; an indescribable brown sugary watery &#039;brew&#039; masquerading as tea), proudly refer to themselves as son-of-(enter domineering mother&#039;s name here), or son of soil, claim to &quot;hail from the Langes of ambandares&quot;, or “the sropes of maunti kirinyaga”, fiercely  chauvinistic specimen that displays an unhealthy, often unconscionable attention to matters pertaining coins, notes and/or any other forms of legal tender. 

Seldom observed putting hands in their own pockets...
no matter how cold...


Also known as Mt. Kenya Mafia, Kikuyu, Mugikuyu, Agikuyu, (also other derivations of the parent word &quot;gikuyu&quot; applicable, or just use your xenophobic term of choice)

DIISCLAIMER;
This writer bears a first hand experience of all these and other pure msapereic symptoms. 

 Now, for decades WE have been trying to convince everyone else that for this country to prosper (this country that WE single handedly wrestled from the oppressors while everyone else was herding or fishing), it is in their best interests that they leave all matters regarding the governing and other day to day BUSINESS of running it in our....mmmh....dextrous hands. 

Because we KNOW, and now you do.

Word of the day;
Sapience;
is the ability of an organism or entity to act with judgment. Judgment is a mental facility that is a particular form of intelligence or may be considered
an additional facility, above intelligence, with
its own properties.

The word sapience is derived from the Latin verb
&quot;sapere&quot;.....It is generally interpreted in the
English-speaking world as meaning to be wise, and
The present participle forms part of Homo sapiens, the
Latin binomial nomenclature created by Carolus Linnaeus to describe the human species.


And if you don&#039;t believe look it up (and don’t just google like i did, that is not research!)

If you have a better theory as to how WE came to be referred to as msapere (ngeli ya M-Wa), then let me know. Otherwise I’m sticking with my aloof delusional explanation of the origin of this word, an origin so malleable that it gives me the ‘divine’ right to continue the plunder on this country, the thuggery over it’s poor citizens, the swashbuckling among the ‘natives’, the suave superior Aryan-like attitude that gives me the right to nyanyasa (kunyanyasa, kunyanyaswa, kunyaswana, kunyanyasa nyanyasa) u and your people, and our peoples’s people.

And I do it Bila shame!
Without even a court hearing or a Waki report, or even a panel to investigate the tribunal that looked into the commission that examined the evidence presented by the prosecutor of such cases as of the andre pintos, the oukos, the JMs or the Tom ‘airlift’ Mboyas… 

Yours, bona fide..
Gitahi wa Wangui.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PARENTAL ADVISORY; Racial tolerance (or prejudice) necessary before you proceed.</p>
<p>For anyone who might not understand sheng;</p>
<p>Msapere:</p>
<p> usually a short, often pot-bellied, spindly-legged, coarse-haired (if not slightly balding), big-headed (both literally and figuratively), foul-mouthed, sexually delusional, needlessly quarrelsome and opinionated species most probably raised on (un)healthy po(r)tions of boiled potatoes, boiled maize and occasionally beans, turungi (or strungi, obviously a corruption of ‘strong tea’; an indescribable brown sugary watery &#8216;brew&#8217; masquerading as tea), proudly refer to themselves as son-of-(enter domineering mother&#8217;s name here), or son of soil, claim to &#8220;hail from the Langes of ambandares&#8221;, or “the sropes of maunti kirinyaga”, fiercely  chauvinistic specimen that displays an unhealthy, often unconscionable attention to matters pertaining coins, notes and/or any other forms of legal tender. </p>
<p>Seldom observed putting hands in their own pockets&#8230;<br />
no matter how cold&#8230;</p>
<p>Also known as Mt. Kenya Mafia, Kikuyu, Mugikuyu, Agikuyu, (also other derivations of the parent word &#8220;gikuyu&#8221; applicable, or just use your xenophobic term of choice)</p>
<p>DIISCLAIMER;<br />
This writer bears a first hand experience of all these and other pure msapereic symptoms. </p>
<p> Now, for decades WE have been trying to convince everyone else that for this country to prosper (this country that WE single handedly wrestled from the oppressors while everyone else was herding or fishing), it is in their best interests that they leave all matters regarding the governing and other day to day BUSINESS of running it in our&#8230;.mmmh&#8230;.dextrous hands. </p>
<p>Because we KNOW, and now you do.</p>
<p>Word of the day;<br />
Sapience;<br />
is the ability of an organism or entity to act with judgment. Judgment is a mental facility that is a particular form of intelligence or may be considered<br />
an additional facility, above intelligence, with<br />
its own properties.</p>
<p>The word sapience is derived from the Latin verb<br />
&#8220;sapere&#8221;&#8230;..It is generally interpreted in the<br />
English-speaking world as meaning to be wise, and<br />
The present participle forms part of Homo sapiens, the<br />
Latin binomial nomenclature created by Carolus Linnaeus to describe the human species.</p>
<p>And if you don&#8217;t believe look it up (and don’t just google like i did, that is not research!)</p>
<p>If you have a better theory as to how WE came to be referred to as msapere (ngeli ya M-Wa), then let me know. Otherwise I’m sticking with my aloof delusional explanation of the origin of this word, an origin so malleable that it gives me the ‘divine’ right to continue the plunder on this country, the thuggery over it’s poor citizens, the swashbuckling among the ‘natives’, the suave superior Aryan-like attitude that gives me the right to nyanyasa (kunyanyasa, kunyanyaswa, kunyaswana, kunyanyasa nyanyasa) u and your people, and our peoples’s people.</p>
<p>And I do it Bila shame!<br />
Without even a court hearing or a Waki report, or even a panel to investigate the tribunal that looked into the commission that examined the evidence presented by the prosecutor of such cases as of the andre pintos, the oukos, the JMs or the Tom ‘airlift’ Mboyas… </p>
<p>Yours, bona fide..<br />
Gitahi wa Wangui.</p>
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		<title>By: mainai</title>
		<link>http://kwani.org/main/translated-from-kibakizungu/comment-page-1/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>mainai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get it...wtf&#039;s this about ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get it&#8230;wtf&#8217;s this about ?</p>
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